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Welcome to another episode, the place where we talk about kids ministry and take a peek behind the scenes. We try to share a little bit of what we've learned that works for us and some of our failures so you can avoid them. We release a new episode every Friday, and this is your backstage pass to see the magic or disaster that happens behind the scenes of our kids ministry. I'm your host, Gabe Baker, and today I'm joined by Brother Keech and Brother Boggs, Brother Aaron Boggs and Brother John Keech. How are you guys doing? Fantastic. I'm nervous. I'm scared. I don't know if I can wing this thing. You're the king of the week, brother. Speaking of which, Brother Keith, what are we talking about today? Oh, we're talking about the art of ad lib. The art of ad lib. So today we probably shouldn't even have an outline since we're doing the topic of ad lib. Yeah, we'll

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We have a script every Sunday, except for on rare occasions when we don't. But our scripts are more like detailed outlines with bullet points. We've talked about this before. So we hardly ever script our dialogue and we don't have verbatim scripts at all. We loosely use a method of, quote, what worked and what didn't work. So this is where we go the script in practice, completely in an ad-lib style, and discover what works well. Then when we, quote, go live, we have a little bit of an idea of what we're going to say, how we're going to block the scene, etc. So while some people are naturally better at this than others, the skill of ad-lib can be developed. And today we want to talk about the art of ad-lib, and I have two of the masters of ad-lib here in the backstage studio. Oh, yeah. So this is really, really good. So we, as you mentioned in the synopsis there, we are like kings of ad lib. And one thing that makes that work so well is experience. The more you do it, the way easier it is. We started doing Sunday school when I was, oh man, as a helper, I was probably 13 or 14. Were you, you were never in, right? Because you were too old. I was too old. So right at the early, early teens. And that's how we did it. No scripts. And I'm terrible with memorization already. I tend to mess up. I think that's part of it. It's funny because both of you guys are so good at ad lib and both of you guys like base, you know, we don't really do verbatim scripts in Sunday school, but on our Christmas event that we did last month. Yeah, it's horrible. Yeah, so you guys both have trouble with lines, memorizing. I do, and I have to be very intentional with it. Yeah, it's like I got to sit down and do it. I hate memorizing stuff. It's horrible. You try to make me say words I can't even say. What was that one word I was supposed to say? Oh, are you talking about a long time ago? A long time ago. Yeah. Oh, what was it? It was spontaneity. Yeah, I'm never going to try. Spontaneity. Spontaneity, yes. To spontaneously say spontaneity is very difficult for me. So one cool thing with this that helps me a lot in the ad lib deal is the bullet point is because I can look at a script, like our loose script that we have hanging about in the backstage area and be able to say like one, two, three, okay, this is what needs to happen during this, the offering or whatever. And I can just, if I can remember three points, I know if I go off track, I can come back to 0.3. So having just those three little buffers or two buffers keeps the ad lib in check because as you know, we can go just go south real quick. We can get off the rails really fast. Yeah. So really, I want to go back really quick for the kids. Do you remember when you started in Sunday school? It was, I was in there. Probably the easiest to remember by theme, right? Yeah. I was sporadically on the balloons. Oh, wow. So that was the second theme. Yeah. So I remember, you know, we had that overhead projector and we used it to, the balloons would be flying and you could see down and then we landed in a military base. I think that was the first one. Okay. We had a bunch of military troops. attack the balloons. That's crazy. I think that actually is when I came in to start to take over as well. I think some of the people had started it with the boat and then... Yeah. And that was when Pastor basically started it is with the boat scene. And we were using a curriculum called Kids Power Hour. I think that's by Pentecostal Publishing or Word of Flame or something like that. Yeah. That's crazy. A long time ago. Long time ago. So we are like currently probably more scripted than we ever have been, even with the, you know, the bullet point type scripts that we do, I would say that we're more scripted than we ever have been. Well, if you look to your left, we've got three pages for one sentence. There we go. Bullet points, but it's three pages. Yeah. Three pages of bullet points. Three pages. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Bible story has taken up a lot of those. Yeah. I use the bullet points. I mean, just to get an idea of what we're supposed to do. Yeah. Keep me, remind me of what we're supposed to do. Like the main focus. The focus. Yeah. It's like, but then it's like, I mean, who really knows what the servant told the master when he gave him five talents? Yeah. I mean, you can't, I mean, you could script it. it but I mean yeah basically it's whatever I wanted to say right yeah well and that's one of the things when I made this I just kind of scribbled out an outline for this podcast but I was kind of thinking of I was kind of had you guys in mind when I was thinking about it and I was like so I have number one there I have being creative in the moment quote in the moment and so like you know you guys are probably the doctors most often our doctors do rotate a little bit but so when we get it's kind of funny now I don't I don't remember when the doctor started I think it was Aaron and Joey that started Me and Joey. But now when we, it's almost like I could have Anisha, Anisha's my daughter, does the costumes and props. I could almost have her just grab a random bucket of stuff for the doctors. It doesn't matter. And the doctors just have to basically figure it out. Yeah, we're going to put whoever back together with whatever's in that bucket. Yeah. I mean, it could be like, we got a can here. I mean, there could be a can on the- Ribbon. Yeah. I mean, we've used all kinds of stuff. And so it's- Syringes. That's one of the, the doctors is a good example of something that is completely in the moment. Like on the fly. Yeah, I mean, there's just times that sometimes, you know, pastors decided he's going to preach three hours and we got to fill some time up. And so like, hey, the doctors come running out and just chase somebody around for five minutes and throw them on the ground. So on the doctors, it's almost a rite of passage. Like anyone that's been in Sunday school has to be a patient. It's an initiation. It's an initiation. And you don't really give them any kind of warning of what the doctor entails. But now the kids are going to know. Because they were the people that are coming up. True. They've been in Sunday. They're going to know what's coming. So back in the day, I mean, we, there's so many stories we could tell. Yeah. I don't know who it was. And this wouldn't work nowadays because everybody, we pretty much waterboarded somebody at one point. I can't remember who it was. I was waterboarded, but it was Captain John. Oh, maybe it was Captain John. I thought I was going to drown. That's right. That was, yeah, it was in the, I don't know if it was a space theme or what, but Pastor was in that Sunday. He specifically wanted that topic too. Yeah. And we just, we about drowned for the key. In fact, the carpet was wet for like a week. Yeah. It was like sopping wet. I bet there was five gallons of water dumped on it. That was hilarious. So, um, on with the, uh, that was all added to, yeah, with the costumes. Um, so this, just this last Sunday, we, so this is, I think a good example of, and I know I'm skipping ahead on my notes, but it will just use this for a costume. Um, so we, we basically kicked off a theme that we weren't ready for But I was I was looking at the calendar saying we got to pull the trigger on this. We just got to go. And so so we ran with it. And our theme is it's news like it's called Bible Adventure News. And so we didn't have all the costumes ready. We didn't have all the props ready. The decor is about 90 percent done. Characters haven't been assigned. Characters haven't been assigned like one one character. And so we just jumped into it. But it went really well. We ad lib. We put a news spin on every segment that we did. But with the costumes, Brother Keech. Now tell that a little bit because you said it was a culmination of several people's input. So I texted you the night before. I'm like, so what characters are we? And you said we haven't scripted them yet. I texted you a picture of me working on the setup. So I'm like, okay, well, I don't even know what to bring. I don't even know what character I'm going to be. So I grabbed some stuff from the house, a couple pair of reading glasses and an old hat I had that I thought I could throw a little press thing on it if I needed to. Kind of a fedora type. A fedora, yeah. And then we come down here and we're going to do the steps of salvation, you know, the plan of salvation. And so we decided to have three experts, one for each step. And then Brent was going to interview us and it's like, what kind of costumes? And so like I threw the glasses on that I had and a shaggy old wig. And then Brent goes, go put that lab coat on. So I threw the lab coat on and then it's like, oh, well then I untucked my shirt halfway, pinked my tie crooked and And then I grabbed a stethoscope while I was in there and I was, I became Professor Barry Baptism. Yeah, you were the stereotypical nerdy professor. Nerdy professor. And then to make it even more, you know, I stumbled over my words. I was very nervous acting. Yeah. And then when I was done, my, and when it went on to getting the Holy Ghost, I was standing over and I was fumbling with that stethoscope, like nervously playing with it for the whole entire time. And it just, you know, I don't know, it just came, it just seemed like a good idea yeah and i so sunday night i was like hey i think that's gonna be a main character yeah so i you know it was barry baptism but i think we're gonna maybe come up with another name because i wanted to be broader than just the baptism but yeah that was that was hilarious and so his last minute just throw on costumes and yeah it's just what we had laying around yeah i mean sometimes you can accessorize you know like anisha will often in fact what she normally does now is she will have like the main the main costume uh You know, the main robe or whatever it is in your locker. I'm sure if you went through Anisha's phone, there's probably 15 pictures of me in various costumes. Yeah, probably. Just ad-libbed costumes. Yeah, that's the other thing. She takes pictures sometimes just for fun, but sometimes it's just to remember in case we use it next week or whatever. So we, you know, to document it. So then the use of comedy. I mean, that's one of the, probably the easiest ad-lib, right? It's like a get out of jail free card. It is. It is. And it's just we kind of we can be like tired on a Sunday morning, dragging in practice and just, you know, be tired and not really want to be exuberant. But we come in here and it's like when we come back in here and we get our costumes on, like it's the Superman and Clark Kent effect, right? We just completely turn into whoever we're going to be. And this is our big phone booth. Yes, this is our big phone booth. And we just come alive. It's amazing. It's just we come alive. And comedy is huge because the kids will remember. Oh, you remember when like my my youngest is still in Sunday school and he'll even throughout the week. Dad, were you in Sunday school last week? No, I wasn't. Well, Brother John did this or Brother Brent did that. And he'll tell a funny story. And I'm like, well, what does that mean? And he'll be able to tell because he remembers that moment being funny. He laughed and he remembers the point. What it was about. Yeah. Yeah. Which is we've talked about before, which is the challenge sometimes is because it's the get out of jail free car, because it's the easy way to go is it is a challenge to balance that comedy, you know? And I think that that's where having the script and knowing the point, like you You mentioned earlier, like each, like the bullet points or whatever, of where we're going with it. It gives you some, gives you like, almost gives you liberty to have more ad-lib because you know where, what we're trying to do, you know? Yeah. I mean, sometimes you got to give people a little bit of time. They have an idea and they're just trying to ad-lib to the point. Yeah. You know, they got to go to point A before they can get to the actual point that they're trying to get to. Yeah. And that's where I have a note fixed on the fly. So things don't always go right, but knowing that direction, it helps. And so like, I just, I can't remember. I remember it might have been, it might have even been, I don't know, just a couple weeks ago on a podcast, I think, Brother Arter, he was talking about sometimes where, he talked about you, Brother Keech, he was like, sometimes where if he is lost, and I think he mentioned Brother Keech and maybe Brennan or something, but he's like, these guys can help get you back on track. Oh, yeah. Like, I mean, I can remember many times, you know, Bible stories, there's so many people kind of get them. I mean, I do too, but get them mixed up with other stories. And so you've got to kind of bring somebody around. It's like, that's the wrong story. But you can't say in front of 50 kids, hey, that's the wrong story. You got to, I mean, it seems like I just went through this a couple of weeks ago. Yeah. I wish I could think of an example because it's pretty hilarious when that happens. I've got an example. Okay. Perfect for this. So yes, Sunday is a new theme. And for whatever reason, I, on our screen in the paper, we had that I was part of memory verse, but for whatever reason, offering was before memory verse. And I had offerings stuck in my head. I grabbed the offering bucket. I was ready to go to the kitchen. So Maybe Anisha told me, no, you're in memory verse. I put it back. And when I went out there with Brother Brent, I still had offering in my head. I don't know why. I went out there and I even got him off because we're talking about, you know, we're thinking of a news network. Breaking news. We had the tsunami hit and the church needs help. It's flooded and we need, that's why we're taking the offering. And we're going with it. And partway through, I'm like, the kids were laughing and I just kind of turned to the side and said, we're supposed to be memory verse. Did you guys see it on the screen or what? On the iPad? Yes. Okay. I looked down and I'm like, oh no. Yeah. Anisha was like, they're doing offering. And then, bro, the artist back here, he's already dressed in his Bible costume. I was like, you're an offering crew today. He's not usually an offering. He's like, no, I, oh, I am. So our fix to that was, we just kind of went on the fly, like it's real. It's like, we just went with it and said, coming back to that, we just made it like, keep that in mind. We're going to be coming back to that breaking news. We just had to go, you know, and segue it into memory verse or whatever. The kids were probably just so confused. They didn't know what was going on. He was able to, oh yeah, coming back to, he just played it off. Like it was supposed to happen. Oh, okay. So he heard. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and then the offering actually, I was like, Brennan had this off the wall idea. Oh yeah. That's a good, that's a good example. Yeah. And it's like, we're, I'm like, all right, well, we'll see what happens. I think we'd better off hand. I mean, he was going to give him a spray of Febreze, which with shouts wrote over the Febreze and tape. Yeah. And so for every, so for every kid that gave an offering and he sprayed him with Febreze and I'm like this, who wants to get sprayed with that? But man, they lined up. I couldn't believe it. it. It was unbelievable. I'm like, that's what he said. He's like, he's like, that was like the best offering like idea ever. And it was like, where did he come up with that? I don't know. It worked great though. Yeah. Yeah. That's funny. I, another thing, this was, this goes into the ad lib and comedy, but brother, uh, Brent, he's our, he's kind of the main character, Gary Gazette. And so he's holding the microphone for, for Aaron as Aaron and Aaron had this character that was like the tinfoil hat guy. I mean, he didn't literally have a tinfoil hat on. I was the guy with the one talent. Yeah, he hit it from the government. But didn't you even in a segment before that, didn't you reference something about that? Yeah, yeah. When he came in, he said the master wanted to talk to him. He's like, oh, everybody's still pulling off. My box at home under my bed was lined with tinfoil. Yeah. So the radio waves couldn't get in. So he's interviewing him or whatever. And he's so Aaron's talking in the mic. Well, I noticed Brother Brent had looked away and his arm had kind of sagged a little bit. So Aaron was kind of leaning down. It just looked funny. So I got Brent's attention and I told him just keep on lowering the mic. So Aaron pretty soon is like laying on the floor talking in the mic. Yeah, he's laying below the mic talking up to it. It was just a slow drop, you know. Yeah, it was really slow. It was hilarious. That's funny. Yeah, it was pretty good. So the other thing is I did want to just mention this really quick is like, and this is where comedy can be used. is and fixing on the fly is when you mess up bad enough and I think I might have mentioned this before but when you mess up bad enough that the kids know is just acknowledge it you know and make it funny or whatever you know because it's it's almost like a trust thing in a way it's almost like if you try to play it off and they know then it's like they you lose some credibility well it's like I mean we already talked about I'm horrible with memorization and you all the time put me in memory verse it's purposeful I go out there and I'm like I've had to verse for 30 minutes and I've got no record. I can't even remember where it's found half the time. So you got the older kids that are in there, you know, that they think they know everything and they always want to correct you. Especially if they're in quizzing and it happens to be a quiz verse. As quiz verse, you're doomed, man. That's right. One thing I've done too in times where we've messed up, like you said, you acknowledge it and make it funny. Like for example, one way I've could have fixed the issue with thinking it was offering when it was really memory verse, get in there and then like freeze and like, we are not in offering. Oh my word. And then the kids are like, ah, And then you just go right into your part and they just, it's. Yeah. Or you just grab that kid. Well, Oh, you want to, you know, this verse, huh? Well, come up here and you can help me. Grab one of the kids off the bench, make them, make them be a helper. Yeah. Yeah.

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So, um, I put a note prepping for ad lib and then I put in parentheses, is this an oxymoron? Um, because it's ad lib, but we do prep. Um, and so sometimes that prep can be in practice and then sometimes it's last minute prep backstage. And so we've kind of have talked a little bit about both. But in an ideal practice, and sometimes our practices, and this is my fault if the script has gone out last minute or something, the practices are basically just a script review. So we have 30 minutes, well, 28 minutes technically, but we have 30 minute practice on Sunday mornings. And in ideal practice, everybody has gotten the script, they've at least looked it over. And then in the practice, we are blocking, meaning that we're kind of doing the actions of where people are going to travel, where they're going to stand. And so so on, on stage or in the room. And then we, even, even in practice, we're not going over dialogue verbatim, but we might say a line and it's like, oh, that's funny. Keep that. Or, oh no, don't say that line, you know, or whatever. And so we, that's in an ideal practice. That's what we try to do. That's our prep for our ad lib, but that's where we, that's where we ad lib so that when we get on stage, we're not as, when we're in front of everybody, we're not as totally off the cuff. You And then there's the last minute prep backstage. And that's where the kind of what we were just talking about, right, is where we have like the bullet points or whatever. And we're like, oh, I mean, and that's where sometimes the greatest ideas come is because we're in the moment. In the zone. And I don't know that we ever will. But when we come in here, like you said, you know, like with the Clark Kent thing, when we change into costume, we're in the middle of Sunday school. We've just done offering. We did memory verse, whatever. We're right in the throes of doing it. Then when it's like, oh, doctors. Well, all kinds. It's like it's like a momentum thing. You know, all kinds of ideas come to you and like, oh, yeah, let's do this. Oh, let's do that. Absolutely. Whatever. Okay. So I wanted to talk about a couple of things before we before we wrap up. Since I got both of you here, it's really important. Really cool having three mics now. So we were talking. It took us a while to get this scheduled. We had to cancel and postpone and reschedule this podcast a few times. But a couple of weeks ago, we were, I think it was like after practice or something, and I don't even know how it came up. Oh, there's this videos going around from years ago, videos and pictures. So we were talking about some of our previous exploits. And that's where the idea for this podcast came about. It was like, oh, man, we started talking about it. We should be talking about this on the podcast. Yes. Yeah. So my niece, Jessica, she used to occasionally go into Sunday school and just video a whole Sunday school. Yeah. And so she posted some of these ones. It's like, are the creatures like 10 years old? Yeah, that's crazy. And now he's preaching. Now he's evangelizing. It's incredible. Yeah. Yeah. She started as like a photo stream. It kind of started off as youth, kind of youth only, kind of our generation, but it just has exploded. It's so cool to see. Yeah, everybody's submitting different things. Right. Because there's stuff you totally forget about being raised in church, being in church 30 years or 20 years. There's stuff, memories that you just completely forget about. Oh, yeah. Well, I'll tell you, I made, you know, for our end of year service, I made a video clip of mostly video clips, but some photos. And it just, what I did is I told pastor, I did it on Sunday afternoon before Sunday night service. It was a last minute idea. And so I told Pastor Burgess, I said, this is just, I said, it's going to be really random because there's going to be like Sunday school clips and then there's going to be like a baptism and there's going to be another a Sunday school clip and then there should be like a youth video. Backstage at Heart of Christmas. Thank you very much. And I said, because I said, because it's just, I went through my phone. I didn't have time to organize it. So I just went through my phone chronologically. And so it was all just chronological. But just in that short period of time, I was like, oh, was that, that was this year? Yeah. You know, it was like, wow. And so, yeah. And so now looking back 20 years or whatever it is, it's crazy. So I still haven't, well, I haven't really looked for them, but I was, this is what we were talking about the other night is I have these videos. And this is like, they're unedited. I mean, I put my hand on the lens for cuts. But we had, this is Captain John and he was, there's a couple of clips. I remember one, there's this old, or it's been remodeled now, but there was this old building he was in front of and he had an acoustic guitar. Do you remember this? Do you remember what it was for? I don't remember what it was for. I think it was for the ministries. Yeah. Different ministries within you. And this was evangelizing because brother Aaron Boggs and his brother, Joey Boggs, who's an evangelist as well. They were in suits. It was like Men in Black type style. Exactly. And they come up to witness to him. This homeless guy sitting there just minding his own business. Playing his guitar. Playing his guitar. But it's Jack and John. The kids know who he is. Oh, yeah. The kids know who he is. And then it goes. Then we're later on. Hold on. I want to talk about this real quick because he's playing his guitar. And this is live because I didn't edit the video. I didn't even know how to edit video back then. Okay. So we're playing the video or, I mean, recording the video. And one of Aaron, like, shakes his hand. So Joey shakes his hand. So Aaron shakes his hand again. So I was like, I did, like, a motion to, like, keep on going. So they shook his hand like 10 times. Is that at the point where we tossed you in the trunk? No, no, no. Yeah, that's the next part. They were going to do anything. And so then. Yeah, they're trying to get him to church. Then it's like I rebuffed them, I think, at that point. And so then we go out to this field, an industrial park. and I'm walking down the side of the road and yeah so I'm like from your perspective at first and the cars coming yeah I remember because I could hear you hear you in the camera saying oh no it's those guys or something those guys again they're crazy they're crazy and so I take off running across this field and they chase me down and I let them catch me and I take and then they I think they think that you recorded them throwing me in the trunk throw you in the trunk and we drove down to the church and I get in the trunk and Gabe at the front door and they come rolling up and they drag me out of the trunk of the car. Pull him to the altar. I mean, straight to the altar. Had his hands up. That was the salvation of Capuchin. I'm not sure that's how it should have happened, but maybe we should show it to Kyle. Oh, man. That was all ad-lib. Every bit of it. Oh, yeah. We didn't script anything. There wasn't any bullet points. There was no scripts. There was no nothing. It's just how we rolled and she was good. She videoed everything Well, I videoed that. That was right. But the whole culture, we just videoed everything. I actually, and there was a bunch of those, like there was the planning department. And so we come out and Brother Joey is out in the dirt and we're like, what are you doing? And he's like, you know, he got his hands all in the dirt and he's like, I'm part of the planting ministry. That was the same one where the music ministry and you were, you were like rapping or something and you had your hat on sideways. And I come in as the, you know, pastor or whatever it was. And I'm doing this motion across my neck, like, you know, like to stop. And so Aaron is doing this rap motion, like he's copying me, like, you know, going back and forth with his hand across his neck, like, yeah, he's rapping. Oh, man. And then Sister Rochelle, who's in Sunday school now as well. And she was having computer. Oh, she was having computer issues. And we did a cut from inside the SUV or whatever we were in. And that was the minimum. black type yeah style or secret agents because it was Aaron and Joey again and he like gets a call from Q or something he's like yeah get this tech help he's like yeah we'll be right there and then it cuts to Rochelle in the sound booth and she's got a baseball bat and she's like I just

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do you remember the heart of Christmas I don't know if we even call it the heart of Christmas but when we were telling the Christmas story and we had a tree and she was the guardian or she was an angel oh the angel Angel sidekick. Yes. That was Ad-lib too. Every time she said sidekick, she'd kick the angel. Sidekick. Man, that reminds me, we're getting off the rails now, but I remember your daughter, Misha. Yeah, she was really good too. She was really good at Ad-lib. In fact, one time we were practicing something and she got kicked in the head. I can't remember what it was, but she actually got kicked. But I remember this one time. That was probably that play. Oh yeah, the Ad-lib or everything. Yeah, I know. The guy's jaws were just like dropping like, oh, this is how you do that. Oh, man. That was pretty crazy. All right. Let's see. There was another. This is not it. But one thing about Rochelle again is Mrs. McCready in Narnia. She was awesome. She did so good as Mrs. McCready. I mean, okay. Here's another thing we did when we did Narnia. The White Witch feeds Peter Turk. Edmund. Edmund. Yeah, Edmund. I remember this. That was Shamra. Yeah, Shamra was a white wretch and I was Edmund. You were Edmund. And she literally was cramming donut holes into my mouth. I ate, I bet I ate two dozen donut holes. I remember that. In about two minutes. You ate a bunch. I do remember that. That was so funny. And she gets in that voice of hers, you know, and it's like, she sounds like the Wicked Witch. Yes. You could paint her green and she would be the Wicked Witch. Yeah, and you know, I was just telling, I said, you know, I think it was with Brother Brent, we were talking about the news thing. I said, so here's some breaking news. Narnia, it's not like very soon, but it is on the schedule. We are going to be doing Narnia again. And I don't know if we can do it without Shemra. I mean, she's such a good White Witch, you know? Incredible. I think I know somebody who could do it. Oh, really? We'll have to convince her, though. Mercedes could be a White Witch. Oh, Mercedes probably could do it. Yeah. She probably could do that. Yeah. I'm going to have to talk to her. And one memory, Sunday School is My wife has it on her phone still. I can't remember what I was. I was injured. And we had an old score table from the school that was like five foot tall for the older student or four foot tall, very tall table. And I had been thrown up there to get checked on. It wasn't by the doctors, but I was like injured. It was like right at the end of Sunday school and I was getting checked out. Oh, I remember this. It was a heart surgery. That's what it was. Yes. It was like we're trying to put the word of God in your heart. Yes. And so the Sunday school ended and it kind of things, this kind of kid started moving around and I was tired again. Yes. And I fell asleep on this little five foot tall table. And we all snuck out. Everybody snuck out. I do remember that. My wife came looking for me because everybody was done. People were leaving. And she found me back in the Sunday school just passed out on a table, five foot table. Oh, man. Yes, I do remember that. And I remember another time when Sister Rochelle fell asleep in a cave or something. And we kept on saying the cue for her to come out. She was asleep live. And she was totally asleep in there. And we had to like, you know, she was supposed to pop. Well, we had to go in there and get her and she woke up and came out and finished up the story. So we videoed and we probably could have like nowadays we could FaceTime you or something while you're on vacation. But we videoed you the one half of the conversation. I think we actually had the conversation, but you somehow. Yeah. And I cut it out or something. Yeah. And so it was all your side of it. And then I was talking to you like over the camera or whatever. And then I get attacked by aliens. Oh, yeah. And then the aliens just come sneaking up behind you. Yeah. And the kids are yelling that I'm not even there. And he wasn't there. And so. Yeah. Some of the older kids that could put it together, you know, Brother Keech, like literally wasn't there. So it was even more scary, you

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Well, we've ad-libbed like characters too. The kids sometimes try to figure out who some of these characters are. And now we try to keep a secret. Yeah, like Ruthless. Like Ruthless. And so we would have somebody, we would make a direct point of having somebody in Sunday school they thought it was and have Ruthless go running through. Yeah, go running through. And they like go to Tackler or something. Yeah, I was thinking. Some of them kids are pretty violent. They still get pretty violent. So I remember, I think I might've mentioned this before and I think it's okay with her because I asked her at youth the other night and we were talking about it and I asked her and she said it was okay. So I'm going to call her out. So Maya, she's in our youth group now and she's older. I don't know if she's 17 or 18 or something. But when she was a kid, she was having nightmares about Ruthless. She was so scared. So yeah, I guess maybe we took it a little far. I don't know. I don't think so. All right. Well, just to recap here. So I'm talking about AdLive and, you know, some of these are just fun stories and everything. But I do think that, you know, you guys are both so good at this and we have others that are too. And then we have some that are not as good. But I think that it's something that can be developed. You know, it can be. It's not just like, oh, you're born with it or else, you know. No. And so some of the tools to develop that is prep. I know it sounds like I said on my notes and oxymoron, but if you prep, the more comfortable you are on stage, then the more you're able to do some of that ad lib, you're more comfortable to make it work. I mean, like an example, even like Brother Keech, you mentioned you hate lines. Well, we have, I mean, like Joey and I probably have some of the most onstage time at events and stuff and we mess up all the time, but the audience never knows it. Oh, well, I messed up this year. Yeah, you messed up this year. But nobody, they thought it was, they get the biggest laugh of anything of the whole, the whole night. Yeah. So nobody knew that you totally had blew a line. I mean, I, I would have if I heard it, but nobody in the audience. Nobody in the audience. Yeah. And so anyway, so the more comfortable you get and on stage, the more you can ad lib. And one of the ways to be comfortable is to be prepped. And so if you're prepared and I guess the reason I'm mentioning that is if somebody listens to this podcast and is like, oh, OK, that's how they do it. And just you don't have any experience and you go out there and just try to ad lib. Well, you might do OK if you have that talent. But if you don't, you can build up to it and you can develop that skill. Yeah. I mean, I mean, you have to you have to know where you're going. I mean, if If you don't, you can't ad-lib if you don't have a direction. You're still, just because you don't have a verbatim script doesn't mean there isn't a script to follow. Right. Yeah. We have a direct, we have a topic. We know what we're trying to do. I mean, I'm out there doing offering. I can't start talking about, you know, plan of salvation. It's not going to work. I can't ad-lib about something. Yeah. Like our, what was our lesson? Use what you got was the title of the script. And so God gave us talents to actually use and use what you got. So everything, there's a blanket there. Everything falls into that offering. memory verse, everything. And so you can, it's something like you can always come back to. Right. All right. Well, I think that's about it.